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Titel: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 15:00
Guten tag,

I am looking for information (location/pictures/girth size/links) about the largests giant sequoias in Germany, or on special places to mention in particular (large tree alleys or groups, etc.).
I don't know if this information is available somewhere on the site.  My goal is to add a general page on giant sequoias in Germany on my www.sequoias.eu site.  Info about other european countries are welcome too of course. Fiele Danke

Foggie
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 15:42
Bonjour Foggie!
Je vous remmercie beaucoup pour ton nouvelle !
Comment cela s`appelle en francais Mammutbaum ?

À bientot !   

Bernhard
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: isbg33 am 19-Oktober-2007, 15:47
Hi Hoggie!

One of the tallest in Germany is in  Bensheim-Auerbach in the Fürstenlager  (http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=178.0)

Wether it is really the ultimately tallest is discussed in this posting
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Sir Cachelot am 19-Oktober-2007, 18:15
Hi Foggie,

Freiburg claims (http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=1085.0) to have the tallest Tree called Waldtraut.
One of the biggest Sequoia stands in Weinheim (http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=772.msg3202#msg3202) near Mannheim. Its 55m meter high.
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 18:18
Well done, Peter ;)
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 21:38
Halo Bernhard und danke!

Mammutbaum = +/- Arbre mammouth (but it is rarely used) On dit: séquoia géant.
Foggie

Bonjour Foggie!
Je vous remmercie beaucoup pour ton nouvelle !
Comment cela s`appelle en francais Mammutbaum ?

À bientot !   

Bernhard
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 21:49
Merci beaucoup infiniment, Foggie!

Sèquoia gèant, oui ?!            Tres bien! ;)
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:02
Guten abend and thanks to all for the infos. 55m and 53m are indeed nice sizes!  I am looking also for datas of circumferences ("umfang" I think) at 1m30-1m50. Its a standard used in most countries, and it is quiet reliable measure and easy to take. Heights are usually more difficult to measure and often subject to discussion.
I measured in Madrid in september 8m95 and 8m72, in Belgium we are at 8m90, Holland 7m87. In France the one in Versailles seems to be above the 9m but I have no exact measurement up to now. In the UK, they have 32 trees above the 9m (one in Scotland at 11m15)! Grüssen aus Brüssel
 
Hi Hoggie!

One of the tallest in Germany is in  Bensheim-Auerbach in the Fürstenlager  (http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=178.0)

Wether it is really the ultimately tallest is discussed in this posting
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Odysseus am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:05
Salut Foggie,
est-ce que tu connais le plus grand arbre en France et où il se trouve? Et aussi le plus grand séquoia géant?

À bientôt
Walter

Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:09
lÈcosse ? Est-ce bien vrai ?
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:40
Bonsoir Walter,

Il y avait 3 sapins pectinés (abies alba) aux environs de 55m dans le Doubs. Deux sont tombés en 1999 (tempête).  En largeur, j'ai l'info quelque part mais je dois chercher. C'est un chêne (quercus robur).

Pour les séquoias, il y a discussion: Versailles, Courson ou Chalus (87) sont souvent cités. Il y a aussi une belle allée de 134 arbres à Mennecy http://www.sequoias.eu/Pages/Locations/mennecy.htm

Foggie

Salut Foggie,
est-ce que tu connais le plus grand arbre en France et où il se trouve? Et aussi le plus grand séquoia géant?

À bientôt
Walter


Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:43
Ja, Scotland. Zie http://users.telenet.be/sequoiadendron/vkoninkrijk.html für info in -flemish-. Easy to understand I guess.

Foggie

lÈcosse ? Est-ce bien vrai ?
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:44
Nice pictures, Foggie! Thanks a lot!
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:51
Thanks Bernhard, do you have datas on Suomi mammutbaumen too?

Foggie

Nice pictures, Foggie! Thanks a lot!
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:53
Thanks a lot, nice trees indeed.
Foggie

Hi Foggie,

Freiburg claims (http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=1085.0) to have the tallest Tree called Waldtraut.
One of the biggest Sequoia stands in Weinheim (http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=772.msg3202#msg3202) near Mannheim. Its 55m meter high.

Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 22:56
Only from "metasequoia glyptostroboides", a few trees stands on the south coast around Helsinki, and they are able to stand less than - 30°C !!!!!

Unbelievable, isn`t it?
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 19-Oktober-2007, 23:07
Indeed.  Good night and have a nice week-end.
Foggie

Only from "metasequoia glyptostroboides", a few trees stands on the south coast around Helsinki, and they are able to stand less than - 30°C !!!!!

Unbelievable, isn`t it?
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Bernhard am 19-Oktober-2007, 23:16
Bonne nuit et à demain, Foggie!
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Mick Rodella am 20-Oktober-2007, 02:14
Hi Foggie!

Congratulations, your website looks nice and you located some very impressive trees!

In Germany, especially in Baden-Wuerttemberg and Hessen grow a lot of giant sequoias more than 40 m tall. Not all of them have been measured, so we don't have an official height top list. The tree at Bensheim/Fürstenlager was told to be the tallest one in Germany (53m), but as actual measurements showed, the tree is 7-8 meters less. The 55m-trees in Weinheim, Hessen could even be the tallest ones in Europe, but they are not very strong.

The top-trunks (girth at 1.3m, measured in 2007), all located in Baden-Württemberg:

1. Insel Mainau: 9.03 m. This tree is probably the most massive one in Germany, the height: around 50 m.

2. Sachsenheim-Ochsenbach: 8.68 m

3. Calv/Hirsau: 8.42 m

3. Simmersfeld: 8.42 m

There's another giant sequoia located at Überlingen/Bodensee, which girth of 8.46 m has to be checked, I guess...

In Wuppertal/Nordrhein-Westfalen you can find the biggest amount of all 3 sequoia-species here, estimated 2000 trees, half of them are giant sequoias.

Best wishes,
Michael
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Joachim Maier am 20-Oktober-2007, 10:41
Hello Foggie,

I'm very pleased to see, that we have also members from other parts of Europe in this forum. It enriches the informations of this forum a lot, as we can see from your links.

Mercy bien!
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: liluz am 20-Oktober-2007, 11:22
Hi Foggie.

I very often remember our initial conversation (in May 2007 ?) about an "European Sequoia Project" approach and I think we should now able to discuss and agree real steps forward, hopefully in co-operation with Ron in UK and others who interested in either to contribute or to support this European initiative.

However, I just got the details of another impressive Sequoia in Europe, located in Luzern, Switzerland -> girth @ 1.3 m: 11.4 m (measured in 9/2006 by Juergen / Saarbruecken and registered in the European Register - http://mammutbaum-register-europa.liluz.de ).

Speak u soon.

Best regards,
Lutz
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 21-Oktober-2007, 11:23
Thanks a lot for the information. This is exactly what I was looking for.  Do you have pictures of these trees that can be used on the site? I mention copyright and author info of course.

Foggie

Hi Foggie!

Congratulations, your website looks nice and you located some very impressive trees!

In Germany, especially in Baden-Wuerttemberg and Hessen grow a lot of giant sequoias more than 40 m tall. Not all of them have been measured, so we don't have an official height top list. The tree at Bensheim/Fürstenlager was told to be the tallest one in Germany (53m), but as actual measurements showed, the tree is 7-8 meters less. The 55m-trees in Weinheim, Hessen could even be the tallest ones in Europe, but they are not very strong.

The top-trunks (girth at 1.3m, measured in 2007), all located in Baden-Württemberg:

1. Insel Mainau: 9.03 m. This tree is probably the most massive one in Germany, the height: around 50 m.

2. Sachsenheim-Ochsenbach: 8.68 m

3. Calv/Hirsau: 8.42 m

3. Simmersfeld: 8.42 m

There's another giant sequoia located at Überlingen/Bodensee, which girth of 8.46 m has to be checked, I guess...

In Wuppertal/Nordrhein-Westfalen you can find the biggest amount of all 3 sequoia-species here, estimated 2000 trees, half of them are giant sequoias.

Best wishes,
Michael
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Foggie am 21-Oktober-2007, 11:34
I did not know this swiss tree.  I had seen before that they do have a lot of nice  sequoia trees overthere.  The city of Geneva claims to have 350 giant sequoias on its ground...

I am indeed still interested in the European project. We can think about creating a European forum and extend your Euopean database.  I know it is a lot of work, but it would be nice to have a possibility to search by country, by place, by size, etc. 

Have a nice day

Foggie

Hi Foggie.

I very often remember our initial conversation (in May 2007 ?) about an "European Sequoia Project" approach and I think we should now able to discuss and agree real steps forward, hopefully in co-operation with Ron in UK and others who interested in either to contribute or to support this European initiative.

However, I just got the details of another impressive Sequoia in Europe, located in Luzern, Switzerland -> girth @ 1.3 m: 11.4 m (measured in 9/2006 by Juergen / Saarbruecken and registered in the European Register - http://mammutbaum-register-europa.liluz.de ).

Speak u soon.

Best regards,
Lutz
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Sir Cachelot am 21-Oktober-2007, 12:32
Hi Foggie, just have a look at
http://www.mbreg.de/html/mammutbaum.php

Or try to find it with the search-function:
here the ochsenbach-tree
http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=622.0
here insel mainau
http://www.mbreg.de/forum/index.php?topic=630.0
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Wayne am 21-Oktober-2007, 14:10
Hi Foggie,

have you informations about the 4m Diameter giant sequoia in La Granja/Spain, i think its the biggest trunk in Europe......

the people on the ochsenbach pics are my family, you can add it to your homepage.....

Greets wayne
Titel: Re: Largests "berg mammutbaumen" in Germany
Beitrag von: Wayne am 21-Oktober-2007, 17:16
ups foggie,

had a look at your homepage.....

you have already a photo of la Granja on your page, i think the 4m Trunk giant sequoia is the right one at the photo



wayne